north korea has helped assad develop chemical weapons. thankfully israel took out those weapons some time ago. north korean actions have not gotten any better. they've only become more dangerous and more treacherous. in addition, north korea is working with iran, the world's number one state sponsor of terror on developing nuclear weapons and intercontinental ballistic missiles. it's clear that north korea is a state sponsor of terrorism. at the very least, the state department should go back to the drawing board and assess whether or not north korea meets the criteria for designation as a state sponsor of terrorismful that's what this bill does, h.r. 479. the north korean state sponsor of terrorism dez egg nation act. it's high time we call out little kim, the loose cannon of east asia, for what he is. a terrorist and a terrorist state. and that's just the way it is. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: mr. oyce reserves. >> i would like to note this resolution passed our committee without any opposition and i reserve the balance of my

north versus south korea. you can see the distinct difference between the capital city and the rest of north korea. how many people live there? guest: i have to admit, i don't know that off the top of my head. i think it's something on the order of 14 million, 12 million to 1 million. south korea is -- host: 22 million people live in seoul alone. guest: north korea is about 50% the size of south korea overall. i think my estimate is off. host: i think the population is 24 million. let geas to steven in ohio. -- let's go to steven in ohio. good morning. caller: good morning. was in the second infantly pa talon. -- battalion. we were north of there and we saw like the whole propaganda village every morning. you wake up and do your run and it's used it scare the heck out of me. that whole mountain is loaded with artillery piece that is got you scoped in and also got seoul scoped in. if you have a president, like a kid with cherry bombs in his pocket, it scares the pants off me that cooler heads sometimes do not p

i urge this council to act before north korea does. we must work together to adopt a new approach and impose increased diplomatic and economic pressures on the north korean regime. the new campaign the united states is embarking on is driven by our own national security considerations, and it is welcomed by many nations who are concerned for their own security and question why north korea claims the nuclear capabilities for which it has no need. our goal is not regime change, nor do we desire to threaten the north korean people or destabilize the asia-pacific region. over the years, we have withdrawn our own nuclear weapons from south korea and offered aid to north korea as proof of our intent to de-escalate the situation and normalize relations. since 1995, the united states has provided over $1.3 billion in aid to north korea, and we look forward to resuming our contributions once the dprk begins to dismantle its nuclear weapons and missile technology programs. the dprk for its own sake must dismantle its nuclear missile programs if i

>> narrator: tonight, inside the north korea the regime wants to keep hidden. >> the way the north korean regime keeps the regime going is this pervasive security apparatus and fear tactics. >> if people stop believing in the regime, that means central control is breaking down. >> narrator: with undercover footage and exclusive interviewfrontline uncovers a new generation risking their lives to smuggle images out and information in. >> north korean defectors have emerged as very quiet agents of social progress. >> narrator: threatening kim jong un's total control of what the world sees of north korea and what north koreans see of the world. >> there really is a potential here that something quite dramatic could happen. >> narrator: but how far will the dictator go to hold on to power? >> if a government is willing to kill as many people as necessary to stay in power, it usually stays in power for a very long time. >> narrator: tonight, frontline takes you inside the "secret state of north korea." >> frontlinis made possible by contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. thank

during his trip to north korea, pence also announced the u.s. would move ahead with deploying the thaad missile defense system in south korea despite opposition by china. this comes as china is urging the united states and north korea to deescalate the conflict. >> we have reiterated many times of the situation on the peninsula is highly sensitive, complex, and risky. we have insisted parties concerned should exercise restraint and to dedicate themselves to efforts that will help reduce the current tension on the peninsula so as to create the necessssary conditions for them to come backo the tabble and resolve the korean peneninsa issue in a peaceful way. amy: to talk more about north korea, we are joined by two guests. in chicago is bruce cumings, profesessor of h history at thte university of chicago. his recent piece for the nation headlined "this is what's really behind north korea's nuclear provocations." he is the author of several books on korea, including "korea's place in the sun: a modern history" and "north korerea: another country." a

north korea is no exception. as an example in 2013 kazakhstan stopped the trust to mediate to allow to facilitate that -- on our nuclear program which consequently. [inaudible] we are convinced there is no other issues collective commitment to international commitments. cousins kazakhstan believes this is the right time for eliminating the nuclear threat. complete nuclear disarmament and the abandonment of koreans nuclear could be made by troops ensuring political and military stability on the peninsula. close engagement with asia-pacific family will bring dprk significant benefits for choosing a peaceful coexistence. such approach combined with a comprehensive holistic regional strategy will ensure stability for the country and the wider region. we call upon all parties, all relevant stakeholders in all member states to take balance actions we call on all parties concerned to refrain from action that could increase the military exhalation and further tensions in the region. >> i think you for your statement. now

north korea furious about ongoing joint military exercises between the u.s. and south korea just miles from the demilitarized zone that accept rat -- separates the two countries. tensions are at their highest levels in years, north korea uncertain about the trump administration's next move. government officials in pyongyang telling cnn there's an imminent and growing threats of an all-o out war with the unite states. if case a war breaks out on the peninsula the u.s. will be held wholly accountable for it no matter who made the first attack. >> there's a chance we could end up having a major, major conflict with north korea. >> the president telling reuters the u.s. won't rule out the military option but, quote, we'd love to solve thing diplomatically. >> he's 27 years old. his father dies, took over a regime. so say what you want, but that is notesy, especially at that a age." >> the president clarifying he's not praising the north korea lead leader. the growing threat of a nuclear north korea the focus of a meeting. >> failing to act now may be catastrophic

force. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> north korea is a problem, the problem will be taken care of. we will report from pyongyang as they celebrate birthday of founder. vice president pence visits south korea amid growing tensions and thousands of isis fighters are being killed as the military unleash it is mother of all bombs in afghanistan. >> really another successful job. we are proud of our military. chris: we will discuss president trump's decisions as commander in chief with deputy national security adviser k.t. mcfarland and as russia, iran and syria warn the u.s., we will break down the president's military and diplomatic options with the chair of the house armed services committee mac thornberry and we will ask the panel about reports and the president is siding with moderate advisers against steve bannon and the populists, all right now on fox news sunday. hello again, happy passover from fox news in washington. the u.s. and north korea are continuing their tense standoff this weekend with a kim regime showing off advanced long-range missiles and conducting a missile test

-- they will fully implement security council resolutions and increased cooperation to convince north korea to abandon its illicit weapons program. it is heartening to see china commit to these actions. the united states is troubled by china's economic retaliation against south korea to take appropriate steps to defend itself. the better path would be to address the threat that is actually making such defensive measures necessary. while issues like that remain, the president and i have great confidence that china will work with north korea. if china is unable to do with north korea, the united states and our allies well. -- will. today, it is my privilege to reaffirm the united states's enduring commitment to the prosperity of south korea and do people of assure the south korea of our bond. a free and democratic south korea was forged in the sacrifice of soldiers from both of our lands. my father was one of them. 65 years ago, and for japan's of the 45th infantry division fought alongside brave south korean forces to win the freedom of this land. he came home to raise a family but he had fr

and china are having the loudest global dialogue to handle north korea. e south korea here, and the people who live in this country are the most in line for some retaliation from north korea if provoked by the u.s. but the other sort of thorn in this issue is the fact that the president, the elected president, has been ousted from office, after an impeachment. in the middle of a presidential cycle. the topic of how to deal with north korea is a key election issue. people are looking at the candidates here, seeing what kind of course forward those candidates would advocate. and you have the high-level washington officials, including the vice president, meeting with an acting president, who won't even be in office in a few weeks. it's important to have the conversations. washington will say it's important to have this dialogue. but, yes. the truth is, of courwashingtone dealing with a new leader in a few weeks. >> alexandra is reporting from seoul. we'll have more on the failed missile launch at the top of the hour. >>> first, let's look at other items makes

north korea is a problem. the problem are be taken care of. >> so, jonathan, what was your reaction when you heard that? >> i don't think it's news. dropping a bomb on a country that we have been bombing regularly going after terrorist groups and taliban fighters, the fact that it's a larger bomb i don't necessarily tie those two things together. now it could be that we're showing the north koreans what we have in terms of our armaments and what we're willing to use. just as they are doing. north korea when they conduct missile tests, part of this is to show this is what we're able to do. we will be able to target bases nearby. we haven't seen evidence of that yet. that's the message they're trying to send when they assassinated kim jong-un's half-brother. a part of that was to show we have vx nerve gas and we're willing to use that. both sides have an interest in showing what they are capable of doing. and with the hope that it actually alleviates the tension and allows people to walk back. >> so, general hur

china is taking a harder line with north korea. they've cut off imports from north korea. the only thing of value that comes out of north korea. china is taking a tougher role. if the president is successful in getting china to take more ownership of dealing with kim jong-un and the on going humanitarian crisis and problems in north korea, that would be an enormous victory. that's the name of the game. can you make china take control? >> sandra: as we read comments from the white house, i want to run this by. kenneth duberstein was on face the nation talking about the struggle within the white house, who's running things, the communication coming out of it. he was saying that the president needs to empower one person to run the white house. listen to this. >> the president needs to empower one person to be the white house chief of staff and the funnel rather than spokes in the wheel. the person who has to be designated first. dick cheney told me you can't have eight or nine people sitting around with one tough issue. >> your turn to talk. >> no, no. your turn to talk. no,

and question why north korea clings to nuclear capabilities for which it has no need. our goal is not regime change. nor do we desire to threaten the north korean people or destabilize the asia pacific region. over the years, we have withdrawn our own nuclear weapons from south korea. and offered aid to north korea as proof of our intent to de-escalate the situation and normalize relations. since 1995, the united states has provided over $1.3 billion in aid to north korea. and we look forward to resuming our contributions once the dprk begins to dismantle its nuclear weapons and missile technology programs. the dprk for its own sake must dismantle its nuclear missile programs if it wants to achieve the security, the economic development, and international recognition that it seeks. north korea must understand that respect will never follow recklessness. north korea must take concrete steps to reduce the threat that its illegal weapons programs pose to the united states and our allies before we can even consider talks. i propose all nations take these three actions begin

the people of north korea, the military of north korea should not mistake the resolve of the united states of america to stand with our allies. the alliance between south korea and the united states is iron clad. we will continue to stand strong to achieve our shared objective across this region and across the world of a denuclearized korean peninsula. >> the message on that failed missile launch, once again, deliberately low key. defense secretary jim mattis putting out a brief statement, saying the president and his military team are aware of north korea's most recent unsuccessful missile launch. the president has no further comment. it is not easing concern over pyo pyongyang's work on nuclear missiles. over the weekend they showed off new hardware. we did hear from mike pence very bold words and he also made bold moves, getting very close to the north korea border. >> reporter: that's right, allison. yes, he was at the dmz, demilitarized zone, and he was seen by north korean soldiers. they came out when they realized there was a vip there and started taking photos. the fact that the se

you have russia that shares a border with north korea. and yeah the south koreans and the north koreans in the middle. it is a very complex situation. i would suggest that the president is very careful with the rhetoric he spews out about the possibility of going to a major war over there. the last thing we want is a major route more in south korea. on groundo very well wars in asia. it is no different now. it would be very difficult for us to conduct any type of major ground warfare there. and you cannot win it in the air. the terrain is not about you to do it. feelu want to get a good for what more would be like over there, just fly over there and take a look at the terrain below you. you will really understand how difficult it will be. host: jack, you sound knowledgeable. caller: i was there for 20 years. host: what were you doing? did two tours with the military. we had a core there, two divisions. we had responsibility for half of the militarized zone, 75 miles. militarized zones are about 150 miles long. then -- over the years, our w

i could not have imagined north korea having an arsenal that size. juxtaposeppose -- that to the size of the korean -- north korean economy, which is miniscule. economists calculate purchasing parity power, it is $40 billion. contrasted to south korea, which has a $1.4 trillion economy. china is a $12 trillion economy. north korea is a failed state with nuclear weapons, and it is run by a diagnostic -- dynastic cult, the kim family. the juxtaposition as north korea as a nuclear weapons state, a major power, and this paltry economy is mind-boggling. host: how would you describe how the president and members of his cabinet, how they have reacted to this provocation from north korea? have: i said north koreans stuck to their playbook, which is playing a weak hand. they have one car, the nuclear, which they play over and over. they demand and command our attention through their provocations. the trump administration is still in its first 100 days. we have had mixed messages of which direction they are going. pence declared in a statement that the era of s

north korea pushed back. tension is a important for north korea to explain to its own citizens why they're living and why they can't have unity and united states central to regimes reason to exist. when trump pushes, most of us expect the north koreans to push right back. that's what we're doing. >> we're having sound issues and always good to have you here and just from the side note on that we're covering the door is closed there on the other side. robert, thank you so much for being with us. >> yes, his kids did make him famous. >>> back to the seriousness of this news day. a bombing in afghanistan, military strikes in syria and ramping up threats to north korea. donald trump isn't taking a soft approach on foreign policy. we'll look at all the drastic changes coming up next here. >>> plus, turkey is one day away from a vote that could overhaul its political system. why germany's finance minister is issuing a stark warning. that story ahead as "cnn newsroom" continues. look, she's sweet, she's got natural

even though beijing urged north korea not to do a test and north korea ignore that had that urging from beijing which basically holds the economic strings and can control the viability of the north korean state, this is something that beijing is going to have to deal with, but it's not something that washington is going to have to worry about because it is not a military threat. this is not a military threat to our allies. it was a failed missile test and we can say it is beneath our notice and not overreact. i think that is a smart approach. >> what does this say about china's efficientsy in dealing with north korea that they went ahead, kim jong-un and north korea, with this test despite china saying no? does this mean they are ineffective going forward or at least in this modern day and age of 2017 as things move so quickly? >> i think it's too early to say. i think there have been threats and turning back of some coal exports and the threat of holding back oil. i think now -- now the burden is on china. if we don't overreact, now it's up to china to prove that it can reign in north

first, it sends the wrong message to north korea that the united states is committed to denuclearizing the korean peninsula. also it's unnecessary, because u.s. strategic assets can protect south korea both with our nuclear weapons on submarines and bombers but also through our conventional forces. >> what about the assassination option? how likely is this? >> well, i think that's extremely unlikely. not only is that illegal, but it could also create a very dangerous situation in north korea. in part because north korea has weapons of mass destruction and it's not clear what the command and control procedures for using those weapons are. so taking out the leadership of north korea could result in those weapons being transferred on to somebody else in the elites and we don't know what the consequences would be. >> kelsey, after this week's summit in florida, look at this, a report in the stars and stripes makes this point. china is reluctant to go too far due to fears that a north korean regime collapse could lead to a refugee crisis and possibly bring u.s. forces closer to its borders.

is as north korea itself. in confronting the reckless north korean regime, it is critical they were guided by a sense of resolve rivaling publicly and diplomatically and militarily. as president trump and secretary mattis have made clear, all opgs -- options are on the table. we want to bring kim jong un to his senses, not to his knees. we are also to challenge the indo pacific with the revenge of china and the revengist russia. china continues a strategy to control the south china sea. i testified last year that china was militarizing this critical international waterway by building bases on seven chinese man-made islands in the disputed groups. despite subsequent chinese assurances at the highest levels that they would not militarize these bases, today they have these facilities that support long-range weapons and placement of radio towers, barracks for their troops. china's militarization of the south china sea is real. i am also not taking my eyes off of russia. they flew bomber missions near alaska. it was

is responsible for it is probably in a lot of trouble in north korea. s all happening as vice president mike pence is on his way. he is in the air to south korea. he had just stopped in anchorage alaska to refuel. on the flight there his press secretary posted this picture on his twitter account. you can see the big mountains of alaska out the window. they told us on the plane they had started planning this trip two months ago. any notion that the vice president or the white house was hesitant to stick to the schedule given how hot the tensions are in the region, the press secretary said that notion is completely inaccurate. they never, for a second intended to not go on this trip. the vice president was met on the tarmac in anchorage. they were only on the ground for about an hour and a half because they have a long trip ahead for this is an 11 day trip covering more than 22000 nautical miles. they will spend 53 hours in the air. his first stop as i mentioned is south korea. he will be meeting with the country's acting president. at the moment no plans

is as north korea itself. in confronting the reckless northeasternan regime, it's critical we're guided by a strong sense of resolve, both privately and publicly, both diplomatically and militarily. as president trump and secretary matris have made clear, all options are on the table. we want to bring kim jong-un to his senses and not to his knees. we're also challenged in the indo asia pacific by an aggressive china. china continues a methodical strategy to control the south china sea. i testified last year that china was militarized in this critical international waterway and the air space above it by building air and naval bases on seven chinese man made islands. despite subsequent chinese assurances at the highest levels that they would not military eyes these bases, today they support long-range weapons and placements, fighter aircraft hangars, red arrow towers and barracks for their troops. china's militarization of the south china sea is real. i'm also not taking my eyes off of russia. which just last w

high alert, north korea. reporting from seoul, south korea, co-anchor martha raddatz. >> hello, from seoul, south korea. it's evening here in the city of 10 million people. on high alert on a weekend of escalating tensions. hours ago, yet another north korean missile launch. the fifth of 2017. this time, it blew up seconds after leaving the launch pad. u.s. officials believe it was likely a medium-range ballistic missile, the kind we have seen before. still, the latest launch rattled nerves, especially after the sudden appearance saturday of what could be new long-range weapons at north korea's big anniversary parade. canisters that appear large enough to house a missile capable of hitting the united states. you can see them there rolling past north korean leader kim jong-un. green camo on huge transporters. if he, indeed, has a missile big enough to reach the united states, and if he can make a war head small enough to fit on it, will the u.s. be forced to respond? this hour, all the angles on the most impor

north korea is not backing down. neither is the u

to north korea and china.s that fair to say? >> that is fair to say. >> is it also fair to say that we do not have any intentions of invading north korea at all? i mean, that's not -- nobody has told you, get ready to invade north korea. >> that is not fair to say, sir. i believe the president has said that all options are on the table. >> yeah, but i mean, we're not going to just go in and take north korea down. >> sir, i'm -- i don't want to get into what we could or couldn't do. >> ok. well, north korea thinks we're going to invade at any moment. do you think that's part of our national security strategy? is without provocation, to attack north korea? >> i think north korea has provided provocation already in terms -- >> but without provocation, it's not our policy to attack north korea. >> they have provoked us already. >> yeah, but i said if they stopped it, they don't have anything to worry about. that's all i'm saying. >> that's a decision -- >> ok. in case north korea is listening. none of us want to i

the two leaders noted the threat of north korea's weapon programs. each of them reaffirmed their commitment to a denuclearized north korea. they will fully implement security council resolutions and increased cooperation to convince north korea to abandon its illicit weapons program. it is heartening to see china commit to these actions. the united states is troubled by china's economic retaliation against south korea for taking appropriate steps to defend itself. the better path would be to address the threat that is actually making such defensive measures necessary. now, while issues like that remain, the president and i have great confidence that china will properly deal with north korea. but as president trump made clear, if china is unable to deal with north korea, the united states and our allies will. [translator repeating statement]s v.p. pence: today, it is my privilege on behalf of president trump to reaffirm the united states' enduring commitment to the security and prosperity of south korea and to assure the people of south korea of our b

and north korea.t would you like to ask the panel about how the president should handle provocations from kim jong un and? go to facebook or twitter, @foxnewssunday and we may use your question on the air. >> chris: president trump sharply escalating his rhetoric on russians role in syria. >> chairman thornberry: if russia didn't go in and back this animal, you wouldn't have a problem right now. >> chris: we will ask our sunday panel about the new chill in relations >> if you look at what has happened over the last eight weeks and compare that relate to what's happened over the last eight years, we will see there is a tremendous difference. >> chris: president trump highlighting what he says is an end to the micromanaging of the military. president obama with what he believes are better results. it's time now for our sunday group, michael needham, at of the conservative think tank heritage action for america, bob woodward from "the washington post," fox news national security correspondent jennifer gr

china has economic power over north korea and on north korea's border. the chinese will have the lead if trying to alter north korea's behavior. >> bill: a fox poll show a clear majority of americans when asked about military action, they favor it by 53% in dealing with north korea. come back to the major headline this morning, a major, major conflict is the quote from the president. is that considered a threat to pyongyang? >> with the steps we've taken, the thaad system in south korea, work with the south korea and japanese allies to increase their defenses in the area. we're showing north korea we're militarily prepared and we're taking economic actions and sanctions and diplomatic pressure with the chinese to show them we're trying those avenues at well. nobody wants to go to war. we want a stable north korea, we want stability in the peninsula and we don't want nuclear weapons -- >> bill: the iran deal hasn't been ripped up. is that issue off the table? >> not at all. we have had a number of meetings on this in the last couple of days. what the pres

official just got a rare look inside north korea, u.s. vice president mike pence traveled from south korea to the dematerialized zone. >> he stood just about 200 feet, some 60 meters from all the while you can see here under the gauge of north korean troops, at one point they appeared to take a picture. here is what the vice president had to say about the dmz and u.s. ties to seoul and the nuclear programs. >> and i'm here to express the resolve of people of the united states and the president of the united states to achieve that effective, through peaceable means and negotiations. but all options are on the table as we continue to stand shoulder to shoulder with people of south korea for the denuclearization of this pe innocence laand for the long-term pros sparety and freedom of the people, of south korea. >> keep in mind, pence's south korean visit follows a failed launch of north korean missile. paula han cox cockshancocks, glu with us. >> we're expecting to hear from mike pence. >> shortly you've seen this video here where our cameras

in north korea and the news this hour is that we are hearing north korea with a missile test. it was expected that something may happen on this weekend. this weekend of the 105th anniversary of the founder of north korea kim il-sun. the assessment is that the failed launch was not an icbm. this was not an intercontinental ballistic missile. this was not a missile at least what we're hearing at the moment that was capable of reaching the united states. this question of whether it can hit the mainland or hit the lower 48 state, we are hearing that is not the case. we are hearing it did explode on launch or very close thereafter according to what the u.s. military is telling us. the u.s. pacific command also telling us that this launch happening in a very early sunday morning in north korea. it's about 8:30 a.m. on a sunday right now in north korea. that this attempt was made about three hours ago. about three hours ago and we're just getting this information that we can confirm from the u.s. military that a missile launch was attempted. what is happening right now when it comes

do we know what to do when it comes to north korea? do we know what north korea wants?heir motive or missiles part of an end game which is larger? let's discuss. cnn reporter will ripley with extensive reporting. and victor chia. he served during the bush administration. will, the sources in north korea. do they see this as another flexing of north korean might or is there a suggestion that something more nefarious is afoot? >> reporter: look, north korea is all-in when it comes to the missile program and nuclear program. every time i go into the country, i hear the same thing. they believe they have the right to be recognized as a nuclear state. they will do that at any cost. despite international saknction, the last to be put are the nuclear programs. the two big issues next week. this could be the opening act. the legislative gathering. the supreme people's assembly. on saturday, the biggest holiday of the year. the day of the sun. it is around the major events we see provocative acts like a nuclear test or icbm launch. >> thank you for that. the question becomes wha

war, well, the korean were fighting north korea and korea. soldierse more chinese in those ranks then there were koreans. -- than there were koreans. host: let's go to webster city, iowa, he opposes a preemptive strike. good morning. caller: i have been listening to this talk back and forth. koreak, you know, talking being one of our enemies. iran being an enemy. the people are not taking the time to think. they are not our enemy. they do not plan on attacking us. they just want to defend themselves. we have troops with nato in europe and somalia. they already took out a leader, they took out qaddafi. they are just after resources. they have no empathy for the refugees, the bombing, or for the children they are sending to fight. none whatsoever. these psychopaths running these countries for the last 40, 50, 60 years have gotten this country and the people brainwashed with mainstream media. who owns mainstream media? if you figure that one out, the fority them are -- aqu the military industrial complex. the rockets that donald trump shot off,

here's our top stories: defiance as north korea test—fires another ballistic missile.he us says the world must do more to curb its nuclear ambitions. failing to act now on the most pressing security issue in the world may bring catastrophic consequences. violence across brazil after the country's first general strike in 20 years. millions are protesting over proposed changes to pensions. as president trump approaches his 100th day in office, we report from ohio, where some say he's sparked a rust belt revival. france's national front replaces its leader for the second time in just three days following controversial comments about the holocaust. hello and welcome to bbc news. in the last few hours, the us military and south korean officials have confirmed that north korea fired a ballistic missile which exploded shortly after launch. the failed test, reportedly from near an airfield in pukcchang, camejust hours after a special session at the un security council in which the us pushed for tougher sanctions on the pyongyang regime. barbara plett—usher has this report from

it would be bigger than anything north korea has built so far. only one thing they showed off in the parade. intermediate range missiles. these are the missiles that could hit south korea or japan. as they look at all of this, they are trying to determine how much of this is real. how much of this represents north korean operational ability. they had a missile test failure over the weekend. if it is all real, that race between north korea's capability to threaten the u.s. and the u.s. ability to get diplomatic method to roll them back becomes more urgent as the world waits to see if north korea, the next step, may be another underground nuclear test. poppy and chris. >> barbara, thank you very much. let's discuss the state of play. dana bash. traveling with the vice president in seoul. we have gordon chang. he is a columnist for the daily beast and david gregory. gordon, one of the pictures made your eyebrows pop up. let's see if question get it back up there. what did you see in the parade that may be a favor to the united states and not just a t

the regime in north korea. states992, the united and our allies have stood together for a denuclearize korean peninsula. completedis to be through peaceful means. but all options are on the table. just in the past two weeks, the world witnessed the strength and resolve of our new president. actions taken in syria and afghanistan. north korea would do well not to test his resolve or the strength of the armed forces of the united states in this region. we will continue to deploy the missile defense system as a defensive measure. called for by the alliance and for the alliance. we will continue to evolve a comp rent a set of capabilities to ensure the capabilities of south korea. and as the secretary of defense made clear not long ago, we will defeat any attack and we will meet any use of conventional or nuclear weapons with an overwhelming and effective response. language]ng foreign vice president pence: strategic patience has been the approach of the last american administration and beyond. decades, the two unit

we have data that suggests north korea was to target u.s. and south korean elections with provocations and we have an election in south korea may 9. it is possible the north koreans could carry out something nonnuclear directed at south korea that can also spin out of control. miscalculation could come from a variety of different places. >> i appreciate your testimony. we focused great deal on north korea. we did not talk as much about china. graham allison has a new book, destined for war, that i think we need to study. we could have an entire hearing on that. thank you for your testimony. me thank the panel for a compelling testimony. on behalf of chairman mccain declare that the hearing is adjourned. >> thank you.

analysts believing these mobile canisters could contain the largest missiles ever produced by north korea. >> the trump administration is watching this very closely as vice president mike pence left a short time ago for south korea. it's the start of an 11-day trip through the asia pacific region. president trump is spending easter weekend at his island resort in florida. aides from the national security council are keeping the president briefed on this situation in north korea. >> our will ripley is in the north korean capital and had an up close look at the military parade and military hardware. >> reporter: ominous sight. north korea's growing missile arsenal on full display including what the south korean military suspects are two never before seen intercontinental ballistic missiles. like all military parades around the world, these missiles are most likely mock-ups but analysts believe north korea has the real thing and may be waiting for just the right moment to put this modernized missile arsenal to the test. what should the world think when they see these ballistic missiles rolli

north korea wants a few things. it wa nts to north korea wants a few things.to be taken seriously, it was to be regarded as a nuclear power by the rest of the world. and it wants to be seen, to be seen to be treated with what it sees as respect of the international community. one of the things that i heard repeatedly in my dealings with north korean officials was, why would the americans treat us like pakistan? through the north koreans see as having accepted them as an effective nuclear power. and that is the model. that is the precedent that north koreans have long wanted to follow in terms of the way that the americans treat them. do you think that there could be some concessions on the american side will kim jong—un have let's get more now on north korea's warning to the united states that it's ready to respond to any provocation with "nuclear attacks'”. the country has staged a huge military parade, displaying what appeared to be new intercontinental ballistic missiles. donald trump has sent a naval strike force to the region because of concerns that nort

of course there's been so much attention about the failed launch by north korea, expectations about north korea ratcheting up tensions and provocations with the west. the president himself has not commented and that has very much been part of the strategy. we heard from the defense secretary, we heard from the national security adviser but not directly by president trump. they don't want him to elevate what kim jong un has done so the president is talking about other things like policy toward north korea, not the specifics of the launch. the president did use a series of tweets today to address range of issues including china saying he would not call china a currency manipulator even though he had done that during the presidential campaign. because they are helping with north korea. top aides say that the president and the chinese president had a lot of time to talk about this when president xi visited mar-a-lago. more time than they had scheduled during the meetings and they believe that china is signaling that they're willing to do some things to help in this area. especially when it co

that would go a long way towards potentially solving this ongoing crisis in north korea. at least at the moment, the two sides do seem to be pretty far apart. >> and quickly, matt, any official confirmation from the chinese about the alleged north korean missile launch? >> the chinese, no. as far as we have heard so far, we've gotten no statement from the ministry of foreign affairs on this. but they usually will acknowledge it. it could just be it's a sunday and they're not really responding. we haven't heard anything specifically, but they are consistent. they always condemn it. they say these launches violate international law and serve to make an already tension situation that much worse. >> that's right. some people do take a day of rest today. let's go back to south korea, to alexandra field, who happens to be at the headquarters for the u.s. military in south korea. the u.s. vice president mike pence just arrived in south korea. what kind of message is he bringing to this long-time american ally, which is right next door to north korea? >> reporter: look, everything

the threat to north korea is more direct to south korea. elections happening there next month will be a crucial part of this puzzle already. there was still no am boss dar that's been named, so there still are pieces of this puzzle that have not yet come into play. >> as we all know, north korea had some anniversary celebrations over the weekend. they were expected to test missiles. one of those that they did try to test failed. but they also had a test that showed off their new armory, an intercom ballistic missile. hans nichols, what message is north korea trying to send, and is it a message that is effective? >> well, i don't know about the effectiveness part of that, katy. i think the messagehey're trying to send is they have ambitions, they have goals and they would like the capability to be able to shoot a missile from the korean peninsula that could land on the west coast or the rest of the united states. we haven't gotten a full assessment, and frankly, there isn't a consensus of what was in those tubes. what capability do the north

but will north korea -- does north korea care? does kim jong-un care about his people? >> of course he doesn't care about his people. china spries north korean oil. they supply enormous amounts of food and other humanitarian assistance because we want to keep the north koreans on their side of the river. if the regime collapses china worries without an agreement with the united states, the south will take north korea back and american troops will be on the sllue river. we don't want to be on the riveriter. we don't want our troops pinned down there. i think he knows that the situation with the north is acute enough that he's not going to give them forever. the fact is your panel was just just discussing the north is very close to having a deliverable nuclear weapons capability that can hit the united states. that's the real point. we are not going to wait forever. i understand the dangers to the civilian population of seoul. nobody takes that lightly. but let's be clear. for an american president what the calculus is. a population of innocent civilians in an american cit